What are you rolling out for us today, Bob?
The nonprofit center is garnering international attention, and the ribbon-cutting is expected to attract 40 or 50 high-profile guests, Bob Larsen, CEO of the composites center, told the Port of Port Angeles Commissioners during a work session Monday morning.
What international attention? Who are these guests going to be? What fields do they come from?
No answers are provided.
"Great things will come from this," said Larsen.
Like what, Bob? Could you be more specific? No, no he can't, apparently.
Would you buy pixie dust from this man?
A ribbon-cutting ceremony and grand opening is tentatively scheduled for August 5th, and the beginning of production, with 12 employees, is expected by October 1st, he said. Larsen also said the CRTC is on target to produce positive earnings by April 2017, and is projecting a need for more space by the end of 2018. "That's pretty remarkable," said Larsen.What would be even more remarkable, Bob, is if you provided even the faintest hint of how all that is going to come to be. Since your previous Upbeat Announcement! was simply an MOU with Toray Composites out of Tacoma, to take their trash and to "work with" them to develop products and markets for those products, it has previously sounded like the CRTC was in the crawling stage. Now you're telling us it's going to be sprinting - and winning gold medals.
Hmmm...Given the Upbeat! nature of this latest news, Bob, and given the sordid history of Port Angeles scams going way, way back, can you offer us any more details that would tend to bolster your happy story talk?
"Great things will come from this," said Larsen.
No, really, we'd like a few more details to flesh out your -
"Great things will come from this," said Larsen.
Yeah, right. But for who, Bob?
God, this town is pathetic. Too many people here fall for different versions of the same scam time after time...
ReplyDelete+1.
DeleteTo a company as smart as Toray, the CRTC is just another waste dump. They'll tell Larsen you "could" do this or that with our waste, but the actual arrangement is just another form of the "dispersal disposal" program: get the chump-ass small towns to pay the big companies to take their toxic waste products off their hands.
Good thing you can't put carbon fiber dust into the water supply...wait, what???
Maybe they can turn composite scraps into fluoride and sell it to...Naw, no city would be THAT stupid.
DeleteWould they???
Great things are coming to Laurel Black. She is the one writing this tripe they keep spoon-feeding to a gullible PDN. Industrial-strength gibberish is an American art form and Black has mastered it--at least for the low-information crowd around here.
ReplyDeleteThese type announcements remind me of teasing my cat with a laser pointer. The cat keeps chasing the dot on the floor but pounces on nothing but air. Laurel Black keeps writing these meaningless news releases and purposely leaves out any discriminating details that anyone can hold them accountable for. My guess, it is a prelude for an ask for another influx of taxpayer money. In preparation they have to bait the trap with pie in the sky promises. County Commissioners are willing dupes so they will probably play along and raid the Opportunity Fund again and again until this gimmick plays out and you can be sure there is already another slam-bang sure thing being cooked up somewhere at the port.
Let's unpack this for a minute, okay?
ReplyDeleteBob Larsen was just put in as CEO less than three weeks ago.
He almost immediately announces that there will be big announcements.
The first announcement is a paper agreement to receive the waste products of a regional composites manufacturer. In return for the CRTC taking this waste, this other company has agreed to assist in "developing" markets for any "products" that may (or may not) come down the pike.
That is to say, the announcement last week admitted that there are currently no markets or products for the CRTC to serve or make.
Now, less than a week later, Larsen is predicting being in the black and having to expand in the very near future based on...?
And the geniuses at the PDN print this drivel and never thought to ask for any of the details?
And the powers that be think we're all going to fall for this again?
This is another vehicle to absorb and distribute grant funds and government handouts to a select few here. This isn't about jobs. It isn't about industry. It sure as hell isn't about recycling.
It's just another way for the do-nothing crooks that run this place to line their pockets. It's PenPly 2016. They'll get the money, and we'll get the waste and clean up costs.
Don't believe a word of it. Please.
How many wager that if there's a ribbon cutting, Cherie will photobomb it and insert herself just like she did at the PUD grand opening. Wasn't asked to be in the photo - just inserted herself. Couldn't believe it when I saw the pictures the next day.
ReplyDelete"Nonprofit"?
ReplyDelete"Positive earnings"?
Clarification, please, Mr. Larsen.
Lets all remember this was the brain child (brain fart?) of Karen Rogers. She promoted the hell out of it.
ReplyDeleteScam?
If KR is involved, YOU BET.
Please explain. I didn't see Karen Rogers' fingerprints on this one. I don't doubt it--but haven't seen the paper trail. Have you?
DeleteIs it just me or does Bob Larsen look like an undertaker? Can you say "Soylent Green?"
Deleteso hard to keep these things straight.. Admiral Composites, Angeles Composites, now Composites Recycling blah blah blah. All on the same 18th street.
DeleteMaybe it's the same, maybe it isn't.
A shell game, for certain. One, thing is given....we'll lose OUR money on this.
does anyone have the EIN for the 501 (c) 3 for the Composites Recycling group? I can't find anything on the IRS website. And, the corporate papers for it have some highly unusual people roped into it. They all look like covert CIA people to me.
DeleteThis is one huge scam, backed by our senators and congressmen. The ploy is to repay Boeing for their generous contributions to political campaigns. We take all of Boeing's toxic waste and fiddle with it while Boeing arms the middle east with weapons soon to be turned on the men and women in uniform.
DeleteCIA? Could be but it is a ripoff of taxpayers in the meantime. No surprise the Fluoride four are "in the picture." They are in on every scam that comes down the pike.
@4:59, you hit the daily double!
DeleteThe CRTC has zero to do with ACTI.
DeleteJust checked the IRS tax-exempt orgs site, and no CRTC. So they are not a 501(c) org.
DeleteI suspect this business incorporated as a non-profit, not to seek donations from people, but to get public & private grant money for all this latest & greatest "technology". Grant money that flows direct into the officers' pockets. And one day, lo & behold, the Chinese have all these jobs & tech now, so we got to close down dontcha know!
This town wouldn't exist if it weren't for grant money.
DeleteBut, "private enterprise knows how to run things better than government". Right.
Almost noon now, and zero comments on this on the PDN's website. I think the natives are on to this con.
ReplyDeleteAw, come on, this is a new 21st century scam, taking Boeing's scraps and, um, well, you all know so we don't have to say anything more!
ReplyDeleteTable scraps for the dogs?
DeleteWe may be dogs to them, but even I wouldn't eat it, because it's worth less than the newspaper it's wrapped in!
DeletePixi dust man scares me.
ReplyDeleteWhy is trying to look like a cutesie 5 year old girl?
Make him stop.
Please make him stop.
I think it's more of a Kim Jong Il-style bouffant. He doesn't look like someone I'd trust children with.
DeleteCompletely inappropriate.
DeleteI try not to go ad hominem on people but can you really trust the judgment of someone who allows a photo of themselves like that to be used?
DeleteIf you look at the picture of the group on the home page of CRTC http://www.compositerecycling.org/
ReplyDeleteYou will see a quorum of our council (Downie, Collins, Gase, and Kidd). Isn't this a violation of the rules of the council?
Four is a quorum, and oddly enough it is the Fluoride FOUR.
Yep! There's the Fluoride Four, embracing yet another boondoggle funded by public dollars. If they don't hang together, they will all hang separately.
DeleteIf this is SUCH a great idea, how come someone, you know, like, RIGHT NEXT DOOR to this composites place in Tacoma didn't think of this? How come they're so eager to truck a "valuable" item way, way out to the Peninsula?
Lots of good questions, all of which have thus far gone unanswered by the CRTC folks.
And unasked by the PDN, of course. (See comments above about Laurel Bleak.)
Also ask yourself what exactly are they bringing into our fair town? Let's see, scrap from a big MIC company whose public face is civilian aircraft when the bulk of their work is modern warfare tools, political payback to same to stay in Washington, and don't forget the lovely nanotechnology embedded in that stuff. It's damn near live!
DeleteAn attendee at the recent PABA meeting where the CRTC was discussed said they bristled at a question about financials, stop-loss agreements, and other items that should have been presented in the normal course of their presentation. This stinks and it doesn't smell any better the closer you get to it. Steve Burke, before you fall victim to the hype you ought to dig down into this before you too get smeared by the dreaded port peccadilloes.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Bob would be up for a in depth interview about our sunny future in composite recycling with Dale?
ReplyDeleteCan anyone say, "wild crazy eyed professor"?
ReplyDelete(Bella Lugosi Hungarian accent) Loooook into my eyes, looooook deeeeep into my eyes. You will do as I say. Hand over your wallet...
ReplyDeleteJust got my copy of the CRTC Articles of Incorporation.
ReplyDeleteThe distributions go to the Port.
They used a Spokane lawyer to file.
Stated purposes include:
"to develop common technologies and standards for the reclamation of composite materials"
"to develop technologies for the repurposing of such materials"
"to secure funding sustainability"
"to develop an extended manufacturing capability"
"to utilize such means as are necessary or appropriate to the promotion of its purposes"
Oh, so the Port is now a beneficiary having one or more of the Washington statutory nonprofit purposes: charitable, benevolent, eleemosynary, educational, civic, patriotic, political, religious, social, fraternal, literary, cultural, athletic, scientific, agricultural, horticultural, animal husbandry, or a commercial or trade association.
I guess being a kickback to Boeing they're "political" then, huh? Which makes it all above board.