Alright, then...I'm gonna leave the dog here with the S.O., leave the blog here with you, and be gone for a couple of days to Bernie University. I'm looking ahead to both the upcoming primary, and the general election, and this two-day training is just the thing for me. So take care while I'm gone, and feel free to share your thoughts here.
Let me leave you with a little item from the official League of Women Voters notes from the last Port Angeles City Council meeting. I get these summations, and they often have a pro-status quo kind of slant to them, with unkind words for those who would, say, challenge the hegemony of the Fluoride Four.
But these last notes (from the March 15th meeting) end on a poignant note. It's the last public comment from the second public comment section of the meeting - the very end of the meeting, in other words. Here it is:
Sherrie Wilson, Buckley, Washington, wishes to
move here but is concerned about the divisiveness in the town and whether or
not the council is responsive to the voice of the people.
Sounds like a more sensitive and in-touch with reality Sherrie than some...
I like to watch the rep from the League of Women Voters attending city council meetings. Especially during the public comment period. Anne shakes her head up and down or side to side IN UNISON with the fluoride fairies also in attendance. She even called out "3 minutes" once when an anti fluoride speaker was talking. They are not as "neutral" as they may have you believe.
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ReplyDeleteSince the PDN has been a topic for awhile, I thought I'd post this illuminating link which let's us understand that manipulating the news is not abhorrent to Black Press, the PDNs perant company. We see manipulating stories is nothing new for Black, although they only “recently” purchased the PDN. Must have liked what they saw.
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The lady looking to move here should be more concerned about the negative deadbeat pissers and moaners who don't have a life and therefore, are drawn to blogs like this. How many signatures on that fluouride petition? Oh thats right - too few to mention. Wait till the ethics panels come back with a thumbs down on your stupid charges and your group is exposed. Are we at a Trump rally?
ReplyDeleteYes, because we see that other than the people pointing out the problems in town, there aren't really any problems. Who cares if the City Council doesn't listen to the people? Who cares that the leadership here is clueless? Who cares that millions upon millions of tax dollars are spent by and for the crony culture here, and the situation is worse now than before?
DeleteYes, we keep seeing this. We know there are no problems. The annual fish derby is filling the local hotels, just like it always has. The fishing is so great, we have tour guides and sport fishing charters lining the harbor, with reservations for months in advance. The streets are so busy every day, we need to build another underground parking facility to keep order in the streets. And that new retail mall/center they've been talking about, because all the storefronts are filled and booming? We really should be thinking of two, while we're at it.
And housing? Geez, we just can't build 'em fast enough, to keep up with all the people moving here.
Yeah, I know. The solution is to ridicule the messenger, instead of looking around. Yeah, that woman who didn't like what she saw? Yeah, she is the problem. Not what she saw.
Most people know that Port Angeles has problems and the leadership is not up to the task. That doesn't make it OK to be rude, crude and disrespectful in addressing the challenges. In fact, its counter productive yet, that is how the anti fluoride group has chosen to conduct themselves. The ethics panels will yield nothing, except the whole community will see Trump-like behavior i.e. bullying, intimidation, character assassination. In a word: slimy. And not smart. Yes, Port Angeles has problems and the leadership sucks - but the anti fluoride group is demonstrating how not to bring effective change.
DeleteWatch the now infamous video again. The treatment by the FF on the City Council is far more aggressive and bullying than anything the anti flouride group has done. There has always been sign waving as a form of civil protest. They have blatantly ignored the will of the people and demonstrated that they are unfit to serve in a public office capacity. Ignorant and uneducated. At least the anti flouride folks are taking their time to try to effect change.
DeleteAnon @ March 25, 2016 at 1:58 PM - what have YOU done for anyone other than pathetically troll on the internet?
Okay Anon 4:25, for the sake of conversation, I'll disregard your characterizations of the people who are upset with how the City Council members have been treating the public (which is a different topic from those that oppose fluoridation) as "rude, crude and disrespectful". (Have you watched the infamous "Cherie goes wacko with the gavel" video?) Given the four have treated the public so poorly, and have ceased to represent the expressed wishes of the public, what do you suggest opponents do? Send them flowers and candy? Say"Thank you Master, can I have some more abuse?"
DeletePlease do tell us all how to "bring effective change."
clearly you (meaning 4:25pm) have a very, very NARROW, myopic version of "rude, crude" and no idea what the word "disrespectful" might mean.
DeleteYou also, clearly have no clue how the city council is supposed to operate, or what it actually involved with the ethics complaints.
Clearly you are another raging, stupid, lazy, uneducated local loser (see, THAT is "rude/crude") who has, at best, a second grade comprehension of what our Constitution says, what Free Speech is, and clearly, you have no interest in widening your world view, or thinking about things larger than what you've been spoon fed your entire life.
(BTW, that isn't disrespectful, it's just an observation.)
The ethics panel will lead to nothing because the stink is deep in this rotten little town. It is decaying. Thanks for your help. (NOT). Here's the disrespectful part: You moronic loser.
and your suggestion is????
DeleteYou guys are all just flailing in the wind. 9:34 You'd fit right in at a Trump rally. 9:30 & 8:44 I attended both City Council meetings and witnessed firsthand the conduct of the anti fluoride group. I heard pro fluoride speakers being berated as they walked back to their seats. I heard a bunch of junk science being shoved down the throats of the whole community as if there wasn't another position. I heard veiled threats being made. I know someone who's windshield got smashed who had a pro fluoride sign in his front yard. I see people openly attack council person's businesses. I don't think the community as a whole has much tolerance for this kind of behavior. You may have a valid point, but you're going about it all wrong. If the anti fluoride group was smart, they would be planning for the next city council election and not bringing ridiculous ethics charges. Really?? I don't think I have a narrow myopic view of what is civil and respectful. I've brought up the petition several times now. How many people have signed it? When the ethics charges are dismissed and the community sees the kind of behavior that most of you here think is fine - don't count on much support
DeleteHey there 6:50...you're just fanning the flames aren't you? Now, try fiddling while Rome Burns....I mean, Port Angeles.
DeleteHey 6:50,
DeleteThe first and the third ethics complaints have nothing to with fluoride. The point it to protect your rights -- that's right YOUR constitutional rights. But, you don't care, do you? No point checking the facts...just keep those lips flapping and fingers typing. I think you ware the ideal Trump-boy.
the biggest problem with Port Angeles is that a majority of the people living here are stupid.
Delete@ Anon 6:50
DeleteInteresting how you line up hearsay to draw conclusions, and just ignore what you don't want to face. A windshield got smashed, you say. And, you say they had a pro-fluoride sign in their yard, you say.
I saw Elvis down at the Meta Room on Friday.
But, none of it really matters, if we all are content to see Port Angeles continue to go down the tubes. You're obviously happy with a City Council that is doing everything it can to silence public comment. You probably would like North Korea, too. Very orderly.
Let me remind you of your statement above: "The lady looking to move here should be more concerned about the negative deadbeat pissers and moaners who don't have a life... ", and repeat what was said in response. You obviously don't like to face reality. The lady is responding to what she sees from afar, about Port Angeles. She isn't part of any group here. And, from what she sees, she doesn't want to move here.
In my work, I travel a lot. Have for many years. I could fill pages here with all the negative responses I get when I say I live in Port Angeles. Most say they avoid having to stay in Port Angeles.
And you, Anon 6:50, are part of the reason why.
Sherrie if you do move here avoid using Boldwell Canker real estate company that councilman Gase is part of. -Gaul Potleaf
ReplyDeleteActually Coldwell Banker is a reputable realtor and has quite a few agents including Mr. Gase.
DeleteAh, the troll is workin' it!
DeleteTrying to show us all how stupid they are, as usual.
Again, why address what the woman saw, when you can make obviously stupid comments for all to see?
4:00pm...hey, it's Mr. Gase on Unearthed. Hey, Dan, how are you doing. Meanwhile, I suspect that "reputable" and "realtor" belong in the same sentence.
DeleteNot in this town. And, NOT at Coldwell Banker
When we moved here, we naively used CB here to find a place. We were encouraged to put in a contract on a house full of asbestos. When we of course found out on inspection and walked, they just sold it to someone else. Nice touch CB.
DeleteI'm SO glad to see Bernie's margins in the primary - way to go, Washington State.
ReplyDeleteAnd now, back to more locally-oriented news...
Sherrie would do well to move to Sequim. Easy Peasy. Even if you work in PA, you can always come home to sunny, progressive, forward thinking, clean Sequim!
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