In case you're wondering what a sunny holiday weekend looks like on Nathan West's Million Dollar Boondoggle Beach...Well, it looks like this:
Where's Waldo? Where are Susie and Dick and Spot? Where's Vincent Price, the last man on Earth? Where is ANYONE? Not here. Maybe if Nathan had taken that million dollars in silver dollars, and spread them out on this desolate stretch of nowhere, maybe then someone would be here. But instead all a million bucks bought was a people-repeller.
Anyway, here are a few comments from our intrepid photographer who braved the hordes to capture this inspiring image...
As you see, once again.. still...the place is vacant. Not a person to be seen. I went down last weekend at 4:30, which was admittedly after the glorious "Waterfront Day," but the place looked EXACTLY like it does in this picture. Not a sign of anyone, or that any popular and well attended event had just occurred.
If, even on a sunny, hot, holiday weekend afternoon NO ONE is interested in using the facility, when will it be used? Does this not, once again, show the importance of doing an honest "needs" study, before building these public projects? What is the point of building multi-million dollar public projects, if nobody uses them?
If, even on a sunny, hot, holiday weekend afternoon NO ONE is interested in using the facility, when will it be used? Does this not, once again, show the importance of doing an honest "needs" study, before building these public projects? What is the point of building multi-million dollar public projects, if nobody uses them?
Oh, that's right. Grants, and the salaries they pay.
Yes..I agree...I much prefer the creosote piles, concrete blocks, rock rubble and logs
ReplyDeleteyer mixing apples and oranges. You can clean up an eyesore without building multi-million dollar fake beaches.
DeleteDo you prefer it the tune of millions of dollars? Was there not a single other thing that the money could have been spent on to improve the lives of the people who live here? Or maybe just not spent at all so we're a tiny little bit less crushed by debt...
Deleteit is because the doofus powers-that-be (hello Cherie, Brad, Pat and Danny) didn't think that maybe putting in some kid friendly attractions were worth the effort. I mean, lets put in some wind powered bullshit, and some fake sand, but forget a water feature for the kiddies, or a sake ramp for the boarders or bmxers, and lets not do anything that would appeal to FAMILIES.
ReplyDeleteHello Port Angeles, home of old folks and fart factories.
P.S. - To get the full nothingness and nobodyness of the photo, please do feel free to enlarge it. Lots of open space, folks!
ReplyDeleteTo clarify. The photo above was taken this last Saturday, on Memorial Day weekend. With the Juan de Fuca Arts festival in town, and ALL those people it supposedly brings into town to enjoy everything Port Angeles. On one of the hottest days so far this year. The national holiday that is the unofficial start of Summer, and beach-going activities.
ReplyDeleteIf a BEACH cannot attract ANYONE on a hot Saturday holiday afternoon, when will it?
In efforts to promote the millions the City has spent on all these "improvements", they put a banner across 101 coming into the City proclaiming May 21st "Waterfront Day", and invited everyone to come to the waterfront to enjoy everything the City has built there. By 4:30 on that sunny, hot afternoon, there was no sign any event had taken place. The town was DEAD.
And this last Saturday, as I drove through town after taking this photo, the town was also amazingly vacant.
How many times have we seen these images? Talked about how dead and empty the town is? At what point do the so-called leaders get the message that Port Angeles, with it's log yards and oil tankers, is not attractive? That you can continue to put million dollar lipstick on that pig, but most everybody still sees it as a pig.
I can give examples of UGLY towns that attract people. It's all about content.
DeleteUgly websites also get traffic, if they have something to offer.
Juan d'Fuca Festival - been there, once, you've seen it all. Nothing new. Nothing interesting. A lot of noise from 4th rate performers. Same vendors. Same locations.
The problem with this town is VISION. More specifically: lack of vision.
Pick your reason, the fact remains that despite spending a lot of time, money and effort to get people to spend time downtown, after many years, the place is still empty. Empty when it should be packed.
DeleteWe've all been to well attended, successful public events. Not here in Port Angeles.
People can make all kinds of excuses and explain away why what is actually a failure is some kind of success. The reality remains that Port Angeles continues to be Loserville.
To paraphrase Gertrude Stein: There is no THERE, there."
DeleteWhy would anyone go downtown? There is no "anchor tenant" (as we had with JC Pennys, and the department store, years ago). The retail space was gobbled up by the state department of poor and needy.
The farmers market was booted off the street (which drew people INTO the retail core)and now it lives in the dark and dank, sorry excuse for a "transit center" which was more interesting as a drunk "Injun" bar with windows set on a tilt, and a big empty weed infested gaping lot.
The festivals which set up on 1st street are gone, first moved to the pier, and then, just abandoned, a shadow of a memory. No sandcastles,anymore.
The evil Public Works Director of not so distant past (as he still consults for the city and pushes his twisted viewpoints) didn't like street festivals, and he thought all should be on the cold, windy pier.
Young don't flock to dinosaur service organizations. It's not a "thing" to be a Mason, Rotarian, or any of the other perfectly dumb clubs. It's for old people like bingo, and the in unison, and off-key singing songs older than your grandparents. Plus, you have to have a living wage income to have the time for a luxury of a service club.
There is no way to revitalize a dead horse. The associations should have addressed the rentals, the choke-hold of greedy landlords, and the not-to-code, too large buildings. We lack small retail space for start-up businesses. And, even if you have the next killer start up, it doesn't matter how many business plans you write, if there isn't any money to be had -- can't happen. (There are only so many pot growers to fund new businesses.)
An old and dying town. Unscrupulous people hold sway over everyone else. The OLD guys hand-pick new puppets for an ineffective council unable to stand up to the same tired ideas which infest city staff.
Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss...
So, what do we get? An apathetic community. Most people don't vote. Suspicion runs rampant. Innuendo and rumor mills crank up.
I'd like to think this town isn't as old and frail and out of life as our mayor, but....
Thank you, intrepid photographer.
Deletei believe you are stretching the intent of the word "hot". pleasant perhaps, but hot not. full disclosure...am unemployed public agency land use and environmental planner, former planning commissioner. first comment I believe gets to the crux of the argument. blight or improved passive open space? harbor as reported is a presumed $100 million environmental disaster from the millbillies, fisherfolk, oil tankers, and other abusers. this passive open space improves upon wasted industrial blight. it is a visual amenity to those who drive by on front street. you disagree with end result apparently due to cost, and perhaps how it was sold to public. redevelopment is a chicken and egg venture, with necessary public infrastructure improvements generally preceding private investment. its also a crap shoot. until there is more successful private investment, greater synergy from private side, the passive park will continue to be underutilized, it still acts as buffer between polluted industrial to west and retail district. i dont believe the "beaches" were ever anymore than a visual amenity suggesting, but not requiring, harbor access. its not like its waikiki, so no one pretends water is inviting, cold breeze not blowing (or about to), harbor not polluted. not every park needs to have skate ramp or expensive to maintain water feature...are not the straits sufficient entertainment with constant ship traffic? the city makes lots of bad choices (they didnt hire me!), but from public agency land use professional standpoint this park wasn't one of them.
ReplyDeleteThe lovely public investment passive park beach will be obscured from the view of passersby and downtown as soon as the upland parcel is developed into a performing arts center/convention center/pipe dream.
DeleteA good investment, given your analysis, would have been for the city or another public entity to purchase that Oak Street upland property and allow it to also become a passive park --- for kite-flying, outdoor gatherings, etc.
Sadly, the downtown and its few waterfront amenities suffer from a sorry lack of good judgment-inspired long range visioning.
Nathan West is, as described elsewhere on this blog, concerned mainly about padding his resume' with titles of projects. I personally hope that he uses it to get hired somewhere far, far, away. If the rumors that he is angling to become PA's city manager are true, this would indeed be an unfortunate outcome for city residents.
Just wait until the new stinky mill cranks up.....the beach will be aromatic, too.
DeleteNo, it was not hot like Texas or Phoenix, but after 140 days of record setting rain, it was hot by local standards.
DeletePlanner? Unemployed? Isn't Port Angeles so great?
Passive open space? Maybe. But my point is more that the City spent millions to build a PARK, that is clearly designed for human use, and no one is using it. That the City can advertise and promote an event to attract and encourage people to come to the facility and USE it, and still nobody does.
It was not built as restoration of a once natural ecosystem for the passive enjoyment as a viewshed. It was not built as an academic exercise in urban landscape design to be viewed from afar.
What this City does not do, repeatedly, are honest "needs assessments" to determine if there is any demand by the public for what is proposed.
If money is abundant and no other issues exist, people can build all kinds of things in inappropriate places. Spending millions building artificial beaches and a waterfront promenade that there is no demonstrated need for when the people are already "taxed to the limit" (as per the opinion of the City's own Financial Officer to the City Council) doesn't make any sense.
Redevelopment makes sense, if there is any demeand for the sites, and potential for the area. Seattle is in a market where offers are being bid up beyond asking prices, to record levels. Same in Victoria. How long have downtown properties been for sale, and remain unsold?
This is not about an objective opinion on a municipal facilities project. This is about yet another glaring example of Port Angeles, it's ongoing bad decision making processes, and the resulting negative impacts to residents.
Nathan West is well aware that his fate is now inextricably tied to Port Angeles. Were he to apply for a job elsewhere, and were that potential employer to look into the sorry state of Port Angeles, do you really think they would be in a hurry to snap Nathan up? Not a chance.
DeleteSo, yes, making the best of the horrible shotgun wedding he has become a party to, Nathan has set his sights on one day becoming City Manager of the city that can't manage to manage at all.
It's better to rule in Hell...
With the raw sewage occasionally dumping into the harbor, would you want to set foot into that water? Try taking kids to that "beach" and explaining to them in the heat that no they can't go in the water? I can see why it's not popular.
DeleteDidn't help that several people have posted pictures on Facebook of their kids rashes after laying around on the beach and wondering what it was (very fine, irritated rashes, too). Of course they didn't say if it was the polluted Hollwood Beach or the new fake one, but, the message was clear "YIPES".
DeleteI hate Nathan West's Million Dollar Boondoggle Beach as much as most of the commenters here but keep in mind it was the Juan de Fuca festival weekend. I cruised through the vendor areas by Vern Burton and there were plenty of people checking out the same old crap they have every year.
ReplyDeleteYes, but the lack of people anywhere else in town also points to the JFFA festival failure. The reason for a City to host festivals and events are the "spin-off benefits". That while visitors drawn to the event wander around town, they spend money throughout.
DeleteYou would think art oriented people would enjoy a waterfront promenade on a nice afternoon. There was no one, anywhere, except within the vendor area up by the Courthouse parking lot.
I recently learned some interesting details about Nathan West's personality. Apparently he likes to start projects a lot more than finish them. He'll start a project, not take any notes, and not really pay attention to how it turns out while he quickly moves on to the next one.
ReplyDeleteWe can see this in action downtown. The Gateway Center floor hardly ever gets pressure washed and is really dirty. The bathrooms are filled with graffiti and vandalism damage. The landscaping planters around it are filled with weeds. It's already been forgotten by Nathan. The esplanade is already showing slight signs of neglect. Meanwhile the fake beaches still have that shiny new look. How long until he abandons them for his next legacy project?
We can't guarantee a majority of good city council members. Heck, we can barely even get good candidates to run. City staff will continue their grant-fueled spending spree with our money unless we stop them. Changing from a code city to a class city is the only way to stop them.
Agree. And the conversion includes having a real mayor (instead of a nominal one) who'll have to respond to public pressure.
DeleteWith the bar set so low, you have to imagine that someone like Nathan West, or Cherie Kidd, would see finding two or three people anywhere near this beach as a runaway "success".
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, left unexplored, is what else could have been bought or accomplished with that same amount of money and effort.
But of course, there aren't even two or three people anywhere near this beach, so from city hall's perspective, the less said, the better. With that in mind, thanks for bringing this up again, CK. Maybe the shame will have some effect some day.
Screw the public, we have an inflated payroll to make!
ReplyDeleteWhat the next grant fer? Hell let's dream up somethin pronto, and send in our application! Next payroll's comin' up!
Meanwhile, you could hardly get through Port Townsend, the streets were so crowded with pedestrians....
ReplyDeleteEXCELLENT point. Full disclosure: I still think fondly of Port Townsend fairly often - the bookstores, restaurants, the two movie theaters. The pleasant, attractive and walkable downtown. It's a really nice little town to spend time in.
DeletePort Angeles, on the other hand...
Port Townsend is certainly better than PA in so many ways, but PT is far from perfect in this regard. PT has its share of waterfront boondoggles with eerie similarity to PA. The Tidy Bowl fiasco, the City Dock/Union Wharf project, which is just as unused as the fake beaches, and the grant-whored Maritime Center. Could go on and on about the likes of Dave Robison, David Peterson, and Scott Wilson, all who would fit right in in PA, but this is not about PT.
DeleteYou know what's not ugly? The marina. Something can be old ugly and run down but if you slap some docks and boats behind it or around it ,it looks quaint instead of shabby. Also their is the plus that most boat owners are friendly folks who just love to show off their boats. Anytime I've every wanted to go fishing all I've ever had to do is wander the marina docks like some ocean crazed window shopper and someone always chats me up invites me to go fishing. Just a quick trip to the store for a half case of decent beer for the captian and a cheap bottle of local wine for the first mate and I'm cruising the straits with a borrowed fishing pole. I don't understand why the port does not spend some money enlarging the Marian and providing more services for the boats that dock there? Maybe a laundromat, more showers, packaging and shipping services. I realize putting it right downtown would be a terrible idea because you can't keep boat slips full when you are releasing millions of gallons of raw sewage several times a year right off of Hollywood beach. Even boat owners are not easy going and happy enough to dock in the middle of floating poop and used toilet paper but they could extend it on the other side of Westports yacht building place or whatever the hell it is now. With low Moorgate rates, decent services boat owners would bring a lot more revenue downtown and un-ugly it up to quaint and rundown instead of just run down. Plus there would be many more free fishing opportunities for me!
ReplyDeleteMaybe. But all most of us see when we drive along Marina Drive is run down shabby-ville.
DeleteNeed some pictures to make the point?
I love looking at marinas and boats and I never could understand why there weren't any restaurants with views and patios over the marina.
DeleteUmm, I guess you never visited the area? There are a number of restaurants and cafe's around there. The one down in the middle of Marine Drive closed down a while ago. It's for sale. Interested?
DeleteBut, as noted above, the area is shabby and nasty looking.
Anon 10:09, There's a dive bar next to the marina—separated by the entrance driveway, scrubby landscaping, and a maybe-empty shop, but there are no restaurants overlooking the marina. The former Jig & Lure overlooks the vast potholed parking lot, not the marina itself. the PA Yacht Club (as it were) doesn't count as a restaurant. Empossible Eden has lovely views of Westport's giant wall.
DeleteThe restaurant at John Wayne Marina, however, has nice table views of boats and Sequim Bay. Pretty sure that's the sort of place the poster is talking about.
If the Port of PA really wanted to drive development of its properties besides those that require expensive cleanups years later, they'd look at how places like Port Townsend, Sequim, and Poulsbo are developing their marina properties. PT's marina is a little scrubby, but there are several funky, quality places to eat and drink within it.
I'm the poster from 8:13 AM and yes I was referring to a decent restaurant with a real view over the marina, perhaps even outdoor seating. As much as it is entertaining to go to Castaways for a beer, I can't believe the positioning of the bar itself - the only view is of the parking lot.
DeleteThe Dockside Grill at John Wayne Marina is more upscale, kind of a special occasion place. I alwasy thought is they or another entity added a more casual place with outdoor seating and a bar that they would do well. It's such a beautiful location. I can't believe (or maybe I can) that there's nothing in PA.
The Port of PA is the owner of John Wayne Marina.
DeleteThis sounds like current photos are need to get everyone on the same page. Anyone who thinks the views in and around Port Angeles so-called "marina" are attractive really need to get out more! There is nothing about Port Angeles that is remotely as attractive as Poulsbos' waterfront and views. For starters.
DeleteThe bone-chilling west wind chases most folks away from the PA beaches. Fake or real. Anyone that has a pulse would realize this. Francis Street Park was a complete disaster but that didn't stop these fools from repeating history. So sad. :D
ReplyDeleteYou are so right!
DeleteThis is the case with just about anything that is about Port Angeles, which is subject to exactly those same conditions. Anywhere else, it might be a good, viable idea. People get sold on a project with pretty artists' renditions of what it could look like, often omitting the actual settings. Projects that likely are successful in other communities with better conditions and a much larger population base to draw from.
But here? Face the realities? No way.
And, it isn't really about doing things that will actually improve the lives of Port Angeles residents. It is just about grant-whoring to sustain a few salaries.
+1. But the weather would still support well-visioned controlled waterfront development (take a look around the world), so real tourists could actually enjoy the place and spend their money.
DeleteOh wait, the ginormous convention center will do all that, right?
Was downtown today, with that bone chilling wind blowing strong through town. Even with the Olympic Discovery Marathon going on, the place was empty (other than the event tents themselves)
DeleteOff topic..
ReplyDeleteI hope this is an urban legend, one of those tales that go round dead end towns, but I heard the composites class at Peninsula College just turned out 19 "graduates" from their program and none could pass a whiz quiz?
They were offered good jobs, with bennies, and couldn't piss clean.
Now think about the ten million we sunk into the pickle ball paddle made by an addled workforce. Maybe it's the fumes.
That wouldn't surprise me - I've heard lots of employers are running up against this same issue. Just because pot is legal doesn't mean it's a protected class as far as employers are concerned. I have nothing against pot, but I also recognize that if I want to have a decent job, that I choose not to partake. Someday when I retire, if it's that important to me, then that would be the time to enjoy it, but for now I need to be working and saving for the future. Looks like a lot of kids aren't thinking that far ahead - it's just the entitlement attitude of "I want what I perceive as being mine NOW." and "I want to do what I want when I want and nobody can tell me otherwise." well, they're finding out that indeed they can be told otherwise.
DeleteYet another grant-funded and illegal losing proposition. PA agreed to be Boeing's Bitch, where Boeing, Toray & others went to the state and asked for yet another subsidy, this time in the form of no-cost carbon waste disposal. The state turns around and funnels some grant money to the willing Port. The Port turns around and forms the highly illegal alleged non-profit corporation CTRC (note that governments are neither profit nor nonprofit enterprises) naming itself as the alleged "beneficiary" of this fake non-profit.
DeleteThen the trucks start coming into town and dumping nanoparticle-ridden shards of toxic waste here, and the CTRC pretends that it's a useful raw material with so many recycled applications, that no one else in the entire world could have been so smart as to come up with their ridiculous "products". Meanwhile the kids involved (no pay of course) get exposed to dangerous particulates, no one telling them the real story of what they're handling.
The a-holes running this scam oughtta crawl back under their rocks.
(and there are plenty of past CTRC threads on this blog with more info if anyone wants to know...)
I do not want to hurt women with families and there jobs. It is a small town and reputation is not something you can gift back. By the way Nathan West is a nice person with a beautiful family and is doing his best as Dan and Joe McKeen are. You say things that are aliitle sad as you can not know all the people you write about. Life Love and Laugh. God will handle the rest.
DeleteAnonymous 6:50 PM..."Gift back"? Joe McKeen?
DeleteIn any case, thanks for the advice to "Life Love and Laugh." Your comments have certainly made it easy to do one of those three things...
You are such a coward. Joel is an EMT and a father. I have known him since a child and my daughter has always been his friend. She is not judgmental like you. SAD SAD LONELY
DeleteHey, moron, who is Joel? It was Joe before, now it's Joel. Next stop is, what, Jor-El?
DeleteI have lots of info on Dan Gase.
ReplyDeletePlease share said info. Lots of it, if possible.
DeleteThank you!
Can you share anything that can in any way be verified? Details, witnesses, anything? What you sent in earlier isn't going to cut it...
DeleteI have many witnesses and details for over 30 years, but am not at liberty to let you know names. He came to Kennewick for his new job an contacted me. He is a very sick person and I can not believe his catholic wife stands for it. Are you Zac? If so contact me. I tried to find you number today as I think these articles sound like you.
DeleteI like what you write. i lived there for 20 years and understand your written thoughts and that is why I thought of Zac. He cared for me and my family.
DeleteAre you afraid to reply?
DeleteYou are a coward hiding behind that ugly face. Grow UP
DeleteI am at a loss as to what to make of these comments. Yikes. Doughy Dan Gase has someone on his case...AND someone defending him (I think)...
DeleteOh, and if I WAS Zac, how would I contact you? You didn't give me any means to do that...Which is probably just fine, eh?
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DeleteNew post on Port O Call:
ReplyDeletehttp://portocallpublishing.com/2017/06/copa-comprehensive-plan-amendment-necessary-to-crush-homes/
The Cinema and Media Class at the North Olympic Peninsula Skills Center is heading down to Seattle this weekend for the Emmy Awards Ceremony. They are nominated for an Emmy for their coverage of last year’s high school homecoming game which premiered on PAPA-TV.
ReplyDeleteA anonymous friend of PAPA provided funds for tuxedo rental, hotel rooms, meals and transportation to make sure these accomplished media students enjoy the occasion as much as any Hollywood nominee.
Their talent was on display again last night as the Skills Center Media Crew presented LIVE coverage of the Lefties inaugural baseball game at Civic Field. The game was presented to the 22,000 Wave Cable subscribers on Channel 21 and also streaming LIVE on the internet. Thousands watched the game online.
Players from both teams alerted their friends and family back home to tune in online. This is quite a feat, not only for the broadcast crew but also for the entire community. Port Angeles was broadcast to the baseball-loving world last night and professionally done I might add.
Be pulling for this talented crew to bring home the top prize, but if that is not in the cards, it is a huge honor just being nominated and able to compete in the rarefied air of professional television production. Way to go guys & gals.
If positive thoughts can bring about positive results everyone should be sending positive thoughts this Saturday night.
Sort of on topic. I just ran into a guy that said when his relatives disappear they are always in PA. Drugs aplenty. So at least there's that. Something to build on. Lol. :D
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with the drug screening thing for manufacturing and retail sales positions. If I had to work 40 hours a week for minimum wage at Walmart or pressing pickle ball paddles out of toxic waste I would have to be high on something.
ReplyDeleteAt least two candidates pulled paperwork at the Auditor’s office this week to file as write-in candidates for the Port Angeles School District Board of Directors.
ReplyDeleteCampaign announcements are in preparation and will appear in upcoming print edition of Port O Call.
Three school board positions are on the ballot without opposition. At least two of those seats will now have competition.
The new candidates inform Port O Call their motivation for entering the campaign is to save the North Olympic Peninsula Skills Center.
“Let them go ahead and dismantle the skills center if they dare, we’ll put it back together come November.” said one candidate.
Both candidates have first-hand experience in education and at least one of them has served as a school board director in another state.
Watch this space and be on the lookout for the June issue of Port O Call coming soon to a mailbox near you.
Currently the uncontested seats are those of Sarah Methner, Susan Long and Cindy Kelly. School Board directors serve 4 year terms.
Don't you mean SANDY Long? As in, long in the tooth.
DeleteMy sister died shortly after Sandy and her name wa Sandy. Think before you type.
DeleteSo, Anonymous 7:53 PM...Are you saying your sister died shortly after Sandy Long died...Even though Sandy Long hasn't died?
DeleteFor the last time...What the hell are you trying to say???
Trump pulls out of the climate accord, a whopping 29 people protest it in Port Angeles, and Mark Ozias makes a wonderfully hypocritical statement about the perils of "abdicating leadership."
ReplyDeleteJust another weakened in Clallam County...
Yes, this was organized by Ed Chadd. The person most able to undermine any concern for anything.
DeleteIf Ed cared about anything more than appearing to "lead", he would shut up, sit down, and stay home. He does more stop the mobilization and involvement of local residents than any other person I can think of.
Ed Chadd is like the Paul Gottlieb of creeks. No credibility whatsoever.
DeleteThe real problem that Ed Chadd is, is that people that don't know any netter listen to his pitch, or see his posts to attend a meeting or demonstration, and believe it is real. Believe he represents real action on the issue. But when they take the time out of their lives to attend his events, all they get is mealy-mouthed nothing. They go home believing there is no hope. There is nothing worse than that.
DeleteCan we make an official town motto?
Delete"Welcome to Port Angeles, and abandon ye all hope!"
You are full of ugly. How should kids feel about your comments. Show manners and do something other than words. HELP the town
DeleteThat is just sick. Port Angeles is awesome. Yes problemss. Move to gang areas and compare. You are smart ant stupid.
ReplyDeleteOh, yes. You are SO right. Port Angeles DOES have problemss. Many, many problemss. But apparently, no gang areas, which is good.
DeleteAs for being smart ant stupid...Is that good, or bad? Is that a problemss?
You spelled stupid wrong. Look it up. Mr. Smart as you soo.. want to call me out. What do you think of Jacob running for Counsel member. I still have members of Larry Williams and how dishonest he was.
DeleteStop making fun of me. You do not know anything about me unless you are Zac. If so, you know how to reach me.
DeleteAnonymous 8:22 AM...Though there's no misspelled stupid here, there's plenty of stupid on display, if you get my drift.
DeleteWhen you say Jacob, do you mean Jake? (And, generally speaking, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?)
Finally, even though you're obviously fairly low-functioning, I do have sympathy for anyone who still has Larry Williams' members...ICK!
And this thread shows exactly why Port Angeles continues to go nowhere. The photo clearly shows that no people found the newly built city projects by the waterfront appealing. Despite the City's effort to promote the places. That is just fact.
ReplyDeleteBut, what do we get from the city's morons? Stupid, and more stupid.