tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post9174236163417065595..comments2023-09-23T08:26:38.233-07:00Comments on Port Angeles Unearthed: Implausible PlatitudesCrypt Kickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-43747247969639571802014-05-01T10:46:51.458-07:002014-05-01T10:46:51.458-07:00Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a...Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall<br /> Humpty Dumpty had a great fall<br />All the King's horses and all the King's men<br /> Couldn't put Humpty together again!!!!<br /><br />Who does PA United think they're fooling, besides themselves?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-26940783690955337292014-04-30T19:23:00.775-07:002014-04-30T19:23:00.775-07:00Hurry back, CK - we want to know what is happening...Hurry back, CK - we want to know what is happening with PA Untied and whatever else you've got going...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-9741286261840541602014-04-30T14:09:47.472-07:002014-04-30T14:09:47.472-07:00Correction, a leadership board that coordinates 5 ...Correction, a leadership board that coordinates 5 specific taskforce-like committee groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-37926579157178947222014-04-30T11:48:35.734-07:002014-04-30T11:48:35.734-07:00I heard from someone who attended the meeting that...I heard from someone who attended the meeting that the three groups (Downtown Assc., Chamber and PABA ) have agreed to merge which will supposedly take place in 2015 after each respective membership votes and approves it. As a result, there will be a leadership board that oversees 5 seperate boards/groups who will be responsible for various responsibiltites related to economic growth in the downtown and community at large. There should be a PDN article coming soon. Sorry, this is all I know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-7317868428486546742014-04-30T09:58:53.486-07:002014-04-30T09:58:53.486-07:00Yes, please. I'd like to know before I get bac...Yes, please. I'd like to know before I get back...Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-37398367774329773352014-04-30T07:43:13.029-07:002014-04-30T07:43:13.029-07:00PAU is the same small group of people who have bee...PAU is the same small group of people who have been manipulating things here for the last?? number of years, for their own personal economic benefit. Being given hundreds of thousands of taxpayer funds, with no accountability. They have occasionally worked with city staff to promote the same policies and actions that have gotten us into the mess we're in.<br /><br /> What we need is the opposite. A large group of the general citizenry that don't receive public funds, and is concerned with all aspects of what makes a city live-able. A group that supports their candidates during campaigns, and after. <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-47988898401435174992014-04-30T07:05:42.015-07:002014-04-30T07:05:42.015-07:00So...Did anyone go to the big PA Untied meeting ye...So...Did anyone go to the big PA Untied meeting yesterday? If so, what happened? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-47288570856698759872014-04-29T18:19:42.439-07:002014-04-29T18:19:42.439-07:00Smith did put it in writing (see POC website today...Smith did put it in writing (see POC website today) and sounds serious enough.<br />But at this point he seems to be the only one out there sooo?<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-72303836592027699062014-04-29T18:15:04.837-07:002014-04-29T18:15:04.837-07:00Hmmmmm.
Sounds like Port Angeles United II
Hmmmmm.<br />Sounds like Port Angeles United II<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-56412589462285550552014-04-29T14:09:02.151-07:002014-04-29T14:09:02.151-07:00In total agreement. A deep undercurrent of dissat...In total agreement. A deep undercurrent of dissatisfaction exists in Port Angeles. An organized citizen panel could get some traction. Where do we start? I have attempted to gather a small group of people together for this very reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-40817571579499675112014-04-29T10:51:53.710-07:002014-04-29T10:51:53.710-07:00What is the "skills center"? I have n...What is the "skills center"? I have no idea what that is, or refers to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-44475699752450091572014-04-29T10:50:44.315-07:002014-04-29T10:50:44.315-07:00I believe the concept of "don't say bad t...I believe the concept of "don't say bad things.." is deeply ingrained in this town. I hear it a lot. The problem is, it creates a void of honesty. If you can't say "that is wrong" you allow people who do wrong things to keep doing them. Speaking up is not being negative. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-53952762992150984022014-04-29T10:08:32.096-07:002014-04-29T10:08:32.096-07:00In reading the post above, I think of what is goin... In reading the post above, I think of what is going on, and what we can do about it.<br /><br /> As has been demonstrated and discussed, Port Angeles is in a mess because of the projects, grants, policies and actions city staff has researched, compiled, wriiten up, and put in front of City Council with aggressive campaigns to gain support for. <br /><br /> City staff creates the information in the documents they provide City Council members that show why one project is better to pursue, over another option. <br /><br /> City staff find, interview and communicated with the consultants they recommend City Council hire. City staff work directly with these consultants after they are hired, and define what work these consultants are paid to do.<br /><br /> And much more.<br /><br /> But, what can the City Council members really do, besides go along with what staff "recommends" they do? Sure, they can ask lame questions, but unless they have put in a lot of time into researching the subject, interviewing possible consultants, and otherwise duplicating City Staff's work, how can they credibily question their own staff? <br /><br /> And, more to the reality of the situation, the culture in City Hall mandates support for their own. Within staff, they circle the wagons and defend their fellow staff. <br /><br /> The Council is told they must support their staff, otherwise, why have City Staff if you don't trust them, their judgement, their professionalism, and the work they do? <br /><br /> So, the "solution" to the problems we identify and discuss here do not lay within the existing City system. <br /><br /> Yes, one could suggest we need "new blood", and that is certainly true. But more importantly, the culture itself is what needs to change. One, two or a few new people will only meet the "majority culture" , and quickly be isolated, as we have seen happen before.<br /><br /> It is up to us, the citizenry, to tell the city what we want, and how we want it done. We can't just sit home, and wait for the collective city culture to engage their powers of mental telepathy, and get religion.<br /><br /> As we have seen, we can't just roust out a candidate or two to run for office, and expect them to fix everything. That hasn't worked, and won't.<br /><br /> We have to form a group that has committees to analyze what City Staff gives to City Council members in advance of meetings. To get OUR voice and views into the considerations.<br /><br /> Without it, we just continue with what we know doesn't work.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-41215195181930431862014-04-29T08:27:41.168-07:002014-04-29T08:27:41.168-07:00Will Tim Smith put that in writing? More to the po...Will Tim Smith put that in writing? More to the point, will all those involved put that in writing?<br /><br />The language we see here presents lots of wiggle room, so unless these PA Untied people are really and truly willing to put it in writing that THEY DON'T WANT ANY PUBLIC FUNDS, well then, have at it.<br /><br />If they can't or won't do that, well then, it's just another PA scam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-44370492598522259112014-04-29T06:46:29.390-07:002014-04-29T06:46:29.390-07:00The big day is here! Can't wait for our new, i...The big day is here! Can't wait for our new, improved future to kick in after this meeting is done...;)<br /><br />And did you see how the city is saying their settlement isn't with Toxic Teresa or Yvonne, but some other person? Jeez...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-23192553982852028792014-04-29T05:10:08.352-07:002014-04-29T05:10:08.352-07:00If the World Bank has experience dealing with Thir...If the World Bank has experience dealing with Third World countries, then they might - I say, MIGHT - be familiar with some of the things that bedevil Port Angeles. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-91410456161962963082014-04-28T22:52:50.635-07:002014-04-28T22:52:50.635-07:00Hey, Anon 6:43...Have you ever heard of constructi...Hey, Anon 6:43...Have you ever heard of constructive criticism? I see a lot of it here. Seems like our council members and county commissioners could benefit from dropping in here every once in a while, to see that not all is well in their kingdom. Some of the peasants are restless and dissatisfied. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-47737665253534679152014-04-28T21:50:34.316-07:002014-04-28T21:50:34.316-07:00I most certainly do not criticize everything and e...I most certainly do not criticize everything and everyone in Port Angeles. The best Thai food I have ever had comes from Sabai Thai. I think Mike Doherty is a smart man, and probably a good guy at heart. Sissi Bruch is too smart to be on City Council. I enjoy Frank McPhee's stupid, corny jokes, and his shop. Oh yeah, thank heavens for Little Devil's Lunchbox - good burritos at last! <br /><br />There are plenty of good people here. That's why we talk so much about the BAD PEOPLE. Because they are the ones doing harm to us all, including to all the good people. People I like. My friends. Your friends. Being harmed. By BAD PEOPLE. Bad people deserve to have bad things said about them - especially when they're true. Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-56194940055212755862014-04-28T21:45:02.371-07:002014-04-28T21:45:02.371-07:00Thank you!Thank you!Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-77647754426351487292014-04-28T21:11:44.703-07:002014-04-28T21:11:44.703-07:00LOL! Really? Now we're going to bring in refer... LOL! Really? Now we're going to bring in references to the World Bank? Should we discuss the many examples of where the World Bank has "provided loans" to underdeveloped countries, knowing full well they can't pay them back, and then installed administrators and policies to exploit the country's resources in ways that benefit the large multi-nation corporations? This is a model PAU is relying upon? <br /><br /> You know, buffalo them with ... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-35649412776331003132014-04-28T19:35:03.609-07:002014-04-28T19:35:03.609-07:00World bank? Wellll, doggie! We's on the map no...World bank? Wellll, doggie! We's on the map now fer shur! Right fancy and ever'thin'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-42804903855524724372014-04-28T19:23:07.897-07:002014-04-28T19:23:07.897-07:00With all due respect Anon 5:24, you sound naïve to...With all due respect Anon 5:24, you sound naïve to what "has" and "is" happening in Port Angeles. Many good people with solid ideas have tried to get involved and make a difference. This blog and what it is attempting to do, comes as no surprise to those of us who have been ignored by the status quo. I don't think you have a clear handle on the situation in Port Angeles. When people are ignored and not allowed to have a voice at the table, they are going to protest and this blog meets a need in the community. You might be surprised at the strong undercurrent that exists. Just look at where Port Angeles is economically. Would you say things are going well or OK? Keep going in the current direction? Are you happy with the City's leadership and direction and stewardship of money? Do you know what is happening in Port Angeles? You sound like someone who is still trying to figure it out. More than a few of us have figured it out and we're trying to do something about it. And if it includes ridicule and shaming of those who ignore the will of the people, it's probably called for. But if you've never been involved, you wouldn't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-49843482381257247132014-04-28T19:08:09.195-07:002014-04-28T19:08:09.195-07:00I see a recent post on Port Of Crap where (I think...I see a recent post on Port Of Crap where (I think the old guy?) Tim Smith says he will not support any private-sector business group, new or old, that continues to feed at the "public trough"?<br />Maybe someone's finally saying something that I can support.<br />Question is, is the guy really serious (sounds like he is), and even more importantly, will he have any serious support?<br />I'll bet he's ticked Russ and Barb off!<br />The other question is, if Old Mr. Smith were to get any support, where else would the City go to waste public dollars?<br /><br />Oh yeah, they would probably create a new City position like Sequim and PT have already done. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-69108963218560481472014-04-28T18:44:21.268-07:002014-04-28T18:44:21.268-07:00Well, ya know...Maybe at the level of the World Ba...Well, ya know...Maybe at the level of the World Bank, that kind of overblown jargon is accepted, understood, maybe even required. But really...This is Port Angeles. Let's scale it down a bit, make it a LOT clearer for people, and keep it real. "Nongovernmental sector partners." I don't even know what that means. If you asked all the people involved with PA Untied what it means, they'd all probably give you different answers, because it's obtuse, obscure and obfuscating language. Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-385763388473872082014-04-28T18:43:28.106-07:002014-04-28T18:43:28.106-07:00I agree.
Be part of the solution or just be anothe...I agree.<br />Be part of the solution or just be another part of the problem.<br />This website criticizes EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE in Port Angeles.<br />But then, that's it's purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com