tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post8677918822958071682..comments2023-09-23T08:26:38.233-07:00Comments on Port Angeles Unearthed: The Lincoln Log - The Saga CONtinuesCrypt Kickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-62772047602793814752015-07-02T12:19:12.411-07:002015-07-02T12:19:12.411-07:00Anon 8:46 says: "Actually a couple people in ... Anon 8:46 says: "Actually a couple people in here said they did, recently. I thought they would appreciate some reassurance."<br /><br /> Please do point out where people expected the river to be dry by now. I saw where posts said things like " At this rate of decline.." and " If it keeps dropping at this rate..", but even a lot of those were followed by " Although that isn't likely..", and such.<br /><br /> With everything as dry as it is now, and no rains expected for 4 months or so, why do you think things will not get worse? Just curious. Doesn't seem to fit with everything going on. What are your assurances based on? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-54489650940864712492015-07-02T09:33:06.514-07:002015-07-02T09:33:06.514-07:00As was pointed out elsewhere, it is BECAUSE the ci... As was pointed out elsewhere, it is BECAUSE the civic and elected leadership in this town keep doing "all negative, all the time", that we here keep pointing it out. Because they don't seem to be RESPONSIVE that we feel compelled to keep pointing it all out.<br /><br /> You know, like people who keep trying to warn people when the house is on fire? Some people might say "Great time to break out the weanies and marshmallows ", and others pound on the doors to try to warn the residents. <br /><br /> You know, that "positive"/"negative" thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-91073759232441104802015-07-01T15:50:52.330-07:002015-07-01T15:50:52.330-07:00Annnnd that's exactly what we're talking a...Annnnd that's exactly what we're talking about. I think we're all aware that extra people on the street doesn't make "everything fine". But God forbid someone breaks the party line of "all negative, all the time".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-88267296785700608192015-07-01T09:03:23.456-07:002015-07-01T09:03:23.456-07:00 Good luck with that. See you in the lines at the... Good luck with that. See you in the lines at the water trucks, later in the year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-2672018223581897202015-06-30T21:27:15.875-07:002015-06-30T21:27:15.875-07:00I do plan on it. It's the National Weather Se...I do plan on it. It's the National Weather Service forecast for the Elwha. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-80610362344402887112015-06-30T21:21:32.632-07:002015-06-30T21:21:32.632-07:00You're smart then! I can't program my VCR ...You're smart then! I can't program my VCR for shit. Goddamn kids!Twelve O'Clock Flashernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-69668513820939110932015-06-30T12:41:07.606-07:002015-06-30T12:41:07.606-07:00OOOHHH...11:07, now you are talking! OOOHHH...11:07, now you are talking! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-66020802727755056452015-06-30T08:37:23.822-07:002015-06-30T08:37:23.822-07:00@ Anon 8:46
You plan on that.
If you listen... @ Anon 8:46 <br /><br /> You plan on that.<br /><br /> If you listen to regional news, you'll hear most communities are seeing a different reality. For example:<br /><br />"FORKS — Residents are being asked to voluntarily cut back on water use to try and slow rapidly falling water levels in city wells.<br /><br />“Right now, the wells are where they are typically in late July or early August,” Rod Fleck, city planner and attorney, said Monday.<br /><br />The city will be checking the wells every few days to monitor the fall of the aquifer levels, Fleck said.<br /><br />Fleck said a day of recent rainfall has not made a difference in the water supply.<br /><br />“The rain we got Sunday, all it did was knock down the dust,” he said.<br /><br />The National Weather Service forecast has no rain in the 10-day forecast, and includes continued unusually warm, dry weather.<br /><br />Public Works Director Dave Zellar warned it may be October or later before the kind of rain needed for relief arrives.<br /><br />It will take least three weeks of winter-heavy rain to begin raising aquifer levels, Zellar said.<br /><br />Last modified: June 29. 2015 7:17PM"<br /><br /> Hmmm.. " October or later before rains start", and " 3 weeks or more before water levels start rising in the aquifers". November? December?<br /><br /> But, no problems. What? Me worry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-54395898796687516442015-06-30T08:31:48.879-07:002015-06-30T08:31:48.879-07:00Oh Boy! I knew everything was fine now.
Greece?...Oh Boy! I knew everything was fine now.<br /><br /> Greece? Puerto Rico? Water? Nothing to worry about now, there were people on the sidewalks of Port Angeles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-54111939171077135562015-06-29T20:46:51.864-07:002015-06-29T20:46:51.864-07:00Actually a couple people in here said they did, re...Actually a couple people in here said they did, recently. I thought they would appreciate some reassurance. But I'm surely wrong on that, heh. The river will keep dropping about an inch a week at the gage. It's about eleven feet deep there... 2.5 years, if it doesn't rain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-80730920906215056142015-06-29T19:12:45.867-07:002015-06-29T19:12:45.867-07:00Goddam kids with their iPods 'n Miley Cyrus! I...Goddam kids with their iPods 'n Miley Cyrus! I just figured out how to program my VCR!Grampa McCrankypantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-2271486646058894212015-06-29T16:40:30.663-07:002015-06-29T16:40:30.663-07:00I did see a lot of people on the downtown sidewalk...I did see a lot of people on the downtown sidewalks this weekend. However I was just driving along Lincoln and looking down the streets, so I don't know if they shopped or bought but I can confirm there were people downtown both days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-17940163229755683622015-06-29T16:08:03.749-07:002015-06-29T16:08:03.749-07:00And that was $1.3 million in dollars as they were ...And that was $1.3 million in dollars as they were twenty years ago...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-54368696936230872462015-06-29T14:03:43.157-07:002015-06-29T14:03:43.157-07:00Unearthed perfect? No. 100% accurate at all times?...Unearthed perfect? No. 100% accurate at all times? No. The end all and be all? No.<br /><br />But it IS a damn sight better than the PDN, or Tom Harper's blog, and is more active (discussion-wise) than the Port O Call website, so, yeah, I'll take it for what it is. Not perfect, but a useful forum for airing of grievances and discussion of ideas. <br /><br />Thanks, CK. Still on my favorites list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-27211420307093817472015-06-29T11:07:00.747-07:002015-06-29T11:07:00.747-07:00Well, if building a new theater is the solution, p...Well, if building a new theater is the solution, perhaps they should consider purchasing (or re-purchasing) the Oak St lot and building a new theater there with a waterside view. And perhaps an outdoor stage on the eastern side using the theater itself as a windbreak. The lot would finally have something there, it would be a bonus to the community and would blend in well with the park. And if they're still hung up on the convention center, they could incorporate that into the design somehow. Maybe have an underground parking lot too to help with that aspect. Having a dual-use building might help offset some costs. Of course, that would require letting go of "just a convention center" at Oak St, and "Lincoln Theater uber alles" on Lincoln.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-59556281008416149712015-06-29T10:55:27.845-07:002015-06-29T10:55:27.845-07:00Yes and no. There are definitely more people posti...Yes and no. There are definitely more people posting here, and with that comes a group who are even more negative than Revitalize is positive. I thought the North Korea and Forks remarks were pretty weird myself. Also when they complain about Revitalize not accepting negative comments, but then they turn around and shout out positive comments in the worse possible way.<br /><br />But I'd hate to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are still people posting who care about the town and want it to get better, not burn to the ground. There's a lot of work to be done in Port Angeles and this blog, as well as Port o Call, helps shine a light in the corruption and incompetence holding us back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-53969883093289255702015-06-29T10:14:14.887-07:002015-06-29T10:14:14.887-07:00Good Lord...Scott Nagel and Mike Gentry could be t...Good Lord...Scott Nagel and Mike Gentry could be twins, except that Nagel is fatter. But other than that...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-27497603609614709562015-06-29T09:43:17.914-07:002015-06-29T09:43:17.914-07:00OK so for some potentially positive news - I heard...OK so for some potentially positive news - I heard that downtown was teeming with people this past weekend. I wasn't there as I spent my weekend in Sequim - but can anybody else confirm this sighting? If true, what services, stores, etc were they patronizing? I'm truly curious to know because those businesses are doing something right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-17125673325634038932015-06-29T09:40:15.408-07:002015-06-29T09:40:15.408-07:00Interesting point and I am happy we have some loca...Interesting point and I am happy we have some local businesses that are doing well and help us to enjoy our own lives here, despite the farce that is Revitalize, as well as our elected officials. The homebrew supply store allows me to continue to pursue a hobby I have without having to order from out of town and the owner couldn't be nicer or more helfpful. I'm glad to see the Gastropub and a couple other local eateries doing well. There are a variety of arts and music and plays and such going on in the area, and I've attended a few. They're all niche events, not everyone will be into everything and the Lincoln supporters need to face a stark reality that they may build it and nobody will come. Not 100% of the population cares about theater, or music, or even film. You will get only a select group for each. I too go to Seattle and Victoria for the larger events we just can't get here, and I don't expect us to have arena size events here. Even if the Lincoln started showing all my favorite movies, I realistically could only afford to go maybe once a month. That's the other half of it - how many folks can afford to attend an event weekly, or even monthly? Did you notice in that PDN article that the folks who took over the Olympia theater had to put $1.3 million into it? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-13038011478946123612015-06-29T09:27:46.837-07:002015-06-29T09:27:46.837-07:00I think if anything, that post just proves CK'...I think if anything, that post just proves CK's point - it's the same complaints because indeed, the supposed "leaders" of PA continue to repeat the same toxic patterns over and over. Why are the folks here the only ones who seem to be able to spot those patterns? I welcome this blog as a breath of fresh air with each new post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-89945661767702799252015-06-29T07:47:11.777-07:002015-06-29T07:47:11.777-07:00Well, I'm the "idiot" who posted the...Well, I'm the "idiot" who posted the comments referencing North Korea - and you seem to have missed the point of those comments entirely. <br /><br />I wasn't comparing PA to NK in terms of iron fists of state control, or anything like that. I was trying (perhaps clumsily) to draw parallels between the enforced state of happy news in North Korea, with the starving, stunted people being brainwashed into singing the state anthem, "We Have Nothing to Envy in the Whole World," to the enforced state of happy news in Port Angeles that results in things like bizarre and excessive enthusiasm for the "Best Town EVER" contest. <br /><br />Neither place is based in reality; both places suffer because of that. And THAT was the comparison I was trying to make. A comparison I still stand by, even if you do think I'm an idiot. (From my perspective, you just seem like a lazy reader, but...) <br /><br />Port Angeles - and the City, and the PDN, etc. - do themselves and the citizens here no favors by ignoring the downside of Port Angeles. Or should I say downsides. <br /><br />Look at what the southern states are finally being forced to do in terms of dealing with the real meaning and weight of the Confederate flag. They're being forced to look in the "ugly mirror" in order to (hopefully) move forward to being a better, healthier place. That's the kind of honesty that Port Angeles would benefit from, but it's in short supply. But this blog (and the POC) do provide it, and I'll take whatever doses I can get. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-31244319615099743852015-06-28T21:35:30.090-07:002015-06-28T21:35:30.090-07:00Yes, lets see the business plan, the forecasts, an...Yes, lets see the business plan, the forecasts, and how much this money pit will REALLY cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-35154890283220438032015-06-28T21:18:11.308-07:002015-06-28T21:18:11.308-07:00But you do agree it WILL fail.
Thank you!But you do agree it WILL fail. <br /><br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-87469258486122904832015-06-28T18:25:03.437-07:002015-06-28T18:25:03.437-07:00Just read the article. That was... very optimistic...Just read the article. That was... very optimistic. Honestly it felt more like a press release than a news article, full of feel-good cheerleading, remarkably short of details.<br /><br />I'd forgotten about PALOA. So, a failed arts organization (PALOA) and a failing arts organization (JFFA) are the two main reasons to bring the Lincoln back to life. There will be movies there apparently (no mention of the conversion to digital), music performances (by whom? certainly there are plenty of local performers who could benefit from this, but have any committed? If so, could they make enough to pay Lincoln's fees? What are Lincoln's fees?) and theater groups (again, who? PALOA has failed, the PDN doesn't mention they would reform for the Lincoln. The PA Theater group? The PC student plays? Don't they have their own venues?) Parking probably wouldn't be a problem, there is a lot across from the Lincoln. But valet parking? Really? More likely a bus like the Home Show uses, from the park and ride at... Wait, do we have one of those? How much of a concern is parking, really?<br /><br />Of course if the Lincoln gets off the ground and fails we can now blame "devices". That really makes you sound old, guys. Damn whippersnappers and their devices. But, fear not, people went to the Seahawks game when they could have watched it on their devices. Because a Seahawks game is exactly the same thing as an event at the Lincoln, just like Olympia is exactly the same thing as Port Angeles.<br /><br />And you know what the funny thing about all this is? I wouldn't mind the Lincoln re-opening. I think it would be an asset to the community. But I also understand there are a ton of hurdles to overcome, now and in the future, before it can be a viable part of downtown. The group trying to get it off the ground certainly seem like they have plenty of ideas but I'm not convinced they have what it takes to make it succeed in the long term.<br /><br />Convince me. Give me a realistic assessment of why you believe it can work long-term. That's all I'm asking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-58985328996620033112015-06-28T17:27:49.981-07:002015-06-28T17:27:49.981-07:00Oh CK, if only you wouldn't be so negative, pe... Oh CK, if only you wouldn't be so negative, people would be donating money, and we could buy the Lincoln. They say it is going to be the center piece of a whole new Port Angeles. <br /><br /> All those old people that did all those things we don't want to talk about are going to go away. The town is going to flourish. Everyone is going to be happy and harmonious. Government is going to do the things we want, and spend our money wisely! <br /><br /> After we buy it, all those people that donated to buy it are going to donate more, every year to fix it up. And pay Scott and his wife to run it.<br /><br /> You'll see. Port Angeles is different now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com