tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post7153685844974698293..comments2023-09-23T08:26:38.233-07:00Comments on Port Angeles Unearthed: Oh, Please...I'd Believe in GAY SEX IN PORT ANGELES Before I'd Believe This (SECOND UPDATE!)Crypt Kickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-83502254807229222432015-01-13T19:53:30.453-08:002015-01-13T19:53:30.453-08:00The NO98 POBox belongs to Waypoint Electronics, do...The NO98 POBox belongs to Waypoint Electronics, down in the Marina. FYIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-48138676157476412332015-01-13T17:46:32.428-08:002015-01-13T17:46:32.428-08:00Alright, NO98 folks, you're getting some feedb...Alright, NO98 folks, you're getting some feedback here. Give the people what they want - and you'll be more likely to get the votes you want. What do you say?Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-7318784045045746492015-01-13T17:32:54.040-08:002015-01-13T17:32:54.040-08:00The no98millionbond should have been a wordpress b...The no98millionbond should have been a wordpress blog. It still can be. Would make much more sense, and let people comment, too. Please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-37164741236301683472015-01-13T17:31:25.994-08:002015-01-13T17:31:25.994-08:00It is rather 2000's, but, the text is actually...It is rather 2000's, but, the text is actually pretty interesting once you get into reading it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-26642708981813219912015-01-13T15:37:45.723-08:002015-01-13T15:37:45.723-08:00THANK YOU 10:35, www.no98millionbond.com is a very...THANK YOU 10:35, www.no98millionbond.com is a very nice summary of all the reasons this is pure, sheer INSANITY to saddle property owners with. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-80896040199641409752015-01-13T15:35:48.430-08:002015-01-13T15:35:48.430-08:00That is one text-heavy, design-poor, crazy quilt o...That is one text-heavy, design-poor, crazy quilt of a website. Which is not to say I'm in favor of the school bond(s). I'm not. But that website is too busy, too user-unfriendly, to change any hearts or minds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-74141878697097391402015-01-13T10:35:25.513-08:002015-01-13T10:35:25.513-08:00http://www.no98millionbond.comhttp://www.no98millionbond.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-84893118740534243262015-01-13T06:36:05.364-08:002015-01-13T06:36:05.364-08:00Anonymous 8:46 PM: Excellent post, and a great ove...Anonymous 8:46 PM: Excellent post, and a great overview of how these players and the funds they control comingle. Anyone who is paying attention can see at least a general outline of how many of these money grabs operate. Thank you for your comments.Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-28106790678009742932015-01-12T20:46:31.195-08:002015-01-12T20:46:31.195-08:00Wait a minute.....lets review. The Unified School...Wait a minute.....lets review. The Unified School district and the city have no cross swapping of cash? What about the wonderful business incubator that folded?<br /><br />August 2006 (from the school districts back files) <br />"PORT ANGELES AND THE LINCOLN CENTER: A LONG-RANGE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK<br />Mr. Jim Haguewood, Clallam Business Incubator Director, offered the board a presentation describing current trends in economic development and anticipating the economic development outlook over the next five years. Mr. Haguewood discussed the Lincoln Center’s role in regional development, and provided suggestions for the school district’s role in economic development. Mr. Haguewood was followed by Dr. Mark Madsen, Port Angeles City Manager, who built upon the economic trend analysis, and described the draft strategic plan for the city of Port Angeles. Dr. Madsen discussed the city’s economic outlook, and suggested opportunities for the school district’s role as a partner in city development."<br /><br />Let's review PDN articles: <br /><br />In 2010.. PDN report: Jones said he's hoping the school district and city of Port Angeles will step forward to help the struggling organization."The county can't do it alone," he said.<br />In November 2009, the board was reorganized.Four entrepreneurs resigned, and Peninsula College, the county, the Port of Port Angeles and city of Port Angeles were added."<br /><br />Then: "the Port Angeles City Council has approved a four-year contract with the Clallam Business Incubator on a 4-0 vote, with three members abstaining. The contract, which lists no monetary amount, was pulled from the consent agenda for the June 24 meeting for more review. City Finance Director Yvonne Ziomkowski said that the incubator's allotment will be about $85,000, as it is in this year's contract.On Tuesday, the contract was approved by Mayor Gary Braun and Councilmen Dan Di Guilio, Don Perry and Larry Williams.Deputy Mayor Betsy Wharton and Councilwomen Cherie Kidd and Karen Rogers abstained from the vote. The incubator contract will begin Jan. 1, 2009, to be renewed annually through Dec. 31, 2012, with either party able to terminate it with 90 days notice.Rogers serves on the incubator's board of directors."<br /> <br />About a year later: "Clallam County has taken the first major step in dissolving the cash-strapped Clallam Business Incubator. The three commissioners Tuesday passed a resolution absolving the Incubator of the $750,000 that the county loaned the private nonprofit organization with state Department of Commerce funds in 2004. The move is contingent on the Port Angeles School District — the incubator’s landlord — assuming the debt. The school district would not be responsible for paying off the loan. Clallam County would pay off the loan with payments of $48,194 per year, including 1 percent interest, until the loan is retired."<br /><br />Meanwhile, in September 2010, some poster on the "other PA blog" said: "$750,000 CASH went to Dr. Cohn and the school district. The CBI never received one penny. The school district spent the money on the Lincoln Center. The loan happened at "believe it or not" Jim Jones and Dr. Cohns request."<br /><br />If you ask me, you cannot say -- clearly, and without a doubt, that the school district AND the city (and county) don't keep some crazy books together. <br /><br />Prove it to me, besides you just saying it, that they don't. <br /><br />Because from all that I've read, including the auditors reports, record keeping is insufficient, spotty, and suspect. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-17746254126596898512015-01-12T20:23:35.646-08:002015-01-12T20:23:35.646-08:00I think that is a brilliant plan. Flush, and star...I think that is a brilliant plan. Flush, and start with a clean bowl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-54341935970896291512015-01-12T16:58:43.681-08:002015-01-12T16:58:43.681-08:00Hey Scott, we're still waiting to hear how you...Hey Scott, we're still waiting to hear how you're going to raise that $5000 a day to make your personal dream come true. Call us. Drop a line. We're waiting to hear from you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-27347141250521910732015-01-12T16:15:58.263-08:002015-01-12T16:15:58.263-08:00Time to consider putting the city in receivership,...Time to consider putting the city in receivership, or bankruptcy for a municipality. When the city turns in its charter we become a part of the county. Suddenly all our bills are due from the entire county and not just the 5,000 working stiffs in the city. Since the county is a political division of the state then we are actually spreading our debts to the entire state. See how easy. Of course there would be no more exciting city council meetings. No more slam dunk contracts going to the chamber. No more lucrative positions at city hall. No more double and triple dipping into retirement accounts. We might just be a wide spot in the road between Forks and Sequim. Has a nice ring to it eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-65980479784291901732015-01-12T15:44:15.221-08:002015-01-12T15:44:15.221-08:00I'm not so sure the spending can be characteri... I'm not so sure the spending can be characterized like that. Yes, staff has spent way beyond reason. Yes, the ability for residents to pay more is questionable. But I think it is a lot like what jobs have become. <br /><br /> Used to be you had a job that paid benefits, and paid towards a pension. If you go way back, the local industrial employer built schools, stores and even housing for it's employees. There was a long range vision, and a sense of responsibility.<br /><br /> In Mexico, the employer is called " Patron", and it is expected that the employer looks after not only their employees, but also their families. Long range vision.<br /><br /> But now, jobs are "contracts", with people working as independent contractors. No benefits, no pensions, and the worker is responsible for their own taxes, etc. No long range vision. Just get what you can for as long as it works, and then move on.<br /><br /> In Port Angeles, everything has become dependent on grants, and grant funding. No long range vision. No budgeting for future needs. The so-called CSO project had to stop halfway through, because the city didn't get the grant funding it wanted. But, they DID get the grant money to build those really useless beaches next to Munro's logs-for-China operation.<br /><br /> And, this approach requires everything be a disaster before grants are approved, because others are applying for that money. The City has to look pathetic enough, to warrant the grants. <br /> <br /> So, there are millions of gallons of sewage overflows. The landfill is collapsing into the Strait. The city has the highest rates of suicides and opiate drug abuse.<br /><br /> What for the headline about how the city got a grant to help pay for policing, after the stories about not being able to provide basic traffic enforcement. <br /><br /> But hey! We got surveillance cameras all over town. And Wi-Fi! And beaches with views of oil tankers. <br /><br /> <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-86761441049037787852015-01-12T14:27:27.583-08:002015-01-12T14:27:27.583-08:00The City of Port Angeles and the Port Angeles Scho...The City of Port Angeles and the Port Angeles School District are completely distinct and separate legal entities. There is no way the funds from a bond issue approved for the School District can accrue to the benefit of the City of PA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-67825149891512756662015-01-12T13:46:05.449-08:002015-01-12T13:46:05.449-08:00And THANK YOU for tying it all together. Gay sex, ...And THANK YOU for tying it all together. Gay sex, straight sex, whatever sex - the thing is, in Port Angeles, you're gonna get screwed. Thanks again.Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-83233188971536867442015-01-12T12:45:01.917-08:002015-01-12T12:45:01.917-08:00Of course it's GAY SEX Port Angeles. Can'...Of course it's GAY SEX Port Angeles. Can't you feel the hands of the city on your shoulders. "Bend over more, you say?" As long as you tell me things will be great, and whisper more sweet lies, no problem. <br /><br />New city motto: Port Angeles -- get stuck where the sun don't shineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-62352459269183278122015-01-12T12:42:29.255-08:002015-01-12T12:42:29.255-08:00It is, indeed. Town is insolvent. There is no nee...It is, indeed. Town is insolvent. There is no need for a crystal ball to see that the pyramid scheme that has kept it afloat is going to crash down. This thinly veiled "oh it's for the children" b.s. and the sudden need for a new high school building, so close on the heels of trying to pass a bond to fix Civic Field, after the urgency to rebuild the Lauridson bridge -- is all a way to pad the general fund, to keep it afloat. Can't keep raising utility rates. Can't keep after the county to keep raising the property valuation. This town has been spending like a drunken sailor for way too long. (Too bad the drunken sailor that used to run public works was allowed to bully people for so long, the city culture changed.) The lies are so fast and furious, that when the truth comes out -- it is going to be really UGLY. Hold onto your hats, folks, this is going to be a wild ride. NO WAY can things keep going the way they are for more than 24 more months. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-52100162403415408462015-01-12T09:48:56.998-08:002015-01-12T09:48:56.998-08:00When you look at the total of the City's proje...When you look at the total of the City's projects, and their debt, and then add in a few other things like the school bond, expected utility rate increases, inflation, etc., Port Angeles really does appear to have been sucked into a downward spiral from which there seems to be no escape. At this point, and certainly if you own property here, you will essentially have to pay to get out, losing money just to achieve escape velocity. This is some seriously scary shit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-61284471847494398352015-01-12T08:38:55.235-08:002015-01-12T08:38:55.235-08:00Commissioner McEntire's play book...Commissioner McEntire's play book...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-62828526698827814962015-01-12T07:59:34.398-08:002015-01-12T07:59:34.398-08:00It really is interesting how Americans are able to...It really is interesting how Americans are able to socialize losses and privatize gains. Notice how the car dealers out east got the governments to fix the roads for them, run a sewer line to them and water lines and so on but the only payback is a little bit of county tax paid on the sale of a car. And, the customer pays that not the dealer. If they had to run their own roads and plumbing they could never operate. So, thank the taxpayers for all that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-44290832901931983352015-01-12T04:30:11.737-08:002015-01-12T04:30:11.737-08:00I think if more people here were well and truly aw...I think if more people here were well and truly aware of the debt load that the city is carrying, there'd be a small-scale panic. There is no way - no way - this is sustainable, and, thanks to the scheming by city staff, who are enabled by a compliant City Council, there is no way this will end well for the people who live in Port Angeles. <br /><br />When the crash comes, you'll have all sorts of ugly things happening all at once - services being cut, cut, cut; property values plummeting; infrastructure crumbling (even more); crime rising; people fleeing. The hollowing out that's been done to the city budget will be mirrored by a literal, physical hollowing out of the town. <br /><br />So we haven't hit bottom yet, but it's coming. But Scott Nagel wants to play THIS stupid game? Yeah, right.<br /><br />This isn't the time for people to be putting money into property in Port Angeles; this is the time for people to be getting what they can OUT of their property in Port Angeles, prior to leaving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-87649377568797059562015-01-11T22:39:43.088-08:002015-01-11T22:39:43.088-08:00YAY!!! YAY!! GAY SEX Port Angeles! We've alre...YAY!!! YAY!! GAY SEX Port Angeles! We've already done more to put PA on the map than all Russ Eeenma has done in his whole career here. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-1202611953231198952015-01-11T17:34:11.507-08:002015-01-11T17:34:11.507-08:00Why don't all those people buy stock in the Li... Why don't all those people buy stock in the Lincoln? Scott, go ask those oh-so friendly people at that bank for a loan? If you have such a great idea that you want OTHER people to invest (cuz YOU said YOU weren't going to pony up that money), that great bank, with all those millions will jump right in. Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-50593112146362518342015-01-11T16:46:04.909-08:002015-01-11T16:46:04.909-08:00Oh yeah. Let's rename the town to Port Vaporwa...Oh yeah. Let's rename the town to Port Vaporware. I'll bet there are a dozen more of these, if we just think....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-26813366726037131272015-01-11T15:59:06.206-08:002015-01-11T15:59:06.206-08:00I grew up going to the Strand Theater. Maybe for P...I grew up going to the Strand Theater. Maybe for Port Angeles, though, it would be better called the Stranded?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com