tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post2371451850186562173..comments2023-09-23T08:26:38.233-07:00Comments on Port Angeles Unearthed: Stopped Clock Cherie, the Tone-Deaf HarpyCrypt Kickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-10119458329185431542016-03-14T09:13:19.392-07:002016-03-14T09:13:19.392-07:00This is such a non issue.
Who really thinks Che...This is such a non issue.<br /><br /> Who really thinks Cherie Kidd knew that Roberts Rules were not officially adopted? She has been on the City Council for years, and operated under Roberts Rules at every meeting.<br /><br /> The issue at hand is not what the City's official policy is, after the fact. The issue is what Cherie Kidd did that night. Anyone can watch the video and clearly see what Cherie Kidd did that night. It is not only clear that Cherie Kidd made a dramatic departure from the way all city council meetings previously were conducted, but that she did it with absolute intention.<br /><br /> From before the meeting even started, with her creating and posting unauthorized signs, it was clear she came to that public meeting with a list of ways she was going to try to silence the public. There is NO question she violated the City's Ethics Rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-31568985259804829262016-03-13T17:50:01.096-07:002016-03-13T17:50:01.096-07:00One does not have to use Roberts Rues but an agenc...One does not have to use Roberts Rues but an agency that has its act together should have passed a resolution at some point saying what rules they were adopting, or they should have had an attachment indicating what their rules are. Just having nothing and nobody having ever questioned it, is just another indicator of the apathy and incompetence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-42253395913153186672016-03-12T22:03:04.119-08:002016-03-12T22:03:04.119-08:00Ethical smethical, this is Port Angeles...Ethical smethical, this is Port Angeles...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-1781600875109719442016-03-12T10:41:54.759-08:002016-03-12T10:41:54.759-08:00Using the argument that they "don't gotta...Using the argument that they "don't gotta " use Roberts Rules when it fact they always have is unethical.Bif nasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270088486706957219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-4935528238107656702016-03-12T10:40:00.253-08:002016-03-12T10:40:00.253-08:00At Anon 8:23
I think you're flat wrong in ...At Anon 8:23 <br /><br /> I think you're flat wrong in that interpretation. <br /><br /> Let's think about the " ..usual and accustomed.. " language that grants First Nations folks access to lands. <br /><br /> There are ll kinds of situations in society that become "the expected norm" because of the repeated use and created expectation. <br /><br /> As we see, when the council suddenly, with out warning or justification, varies the procedures it has followed for decades, the public it serves react with concern. <br /><br /> Let's turn this topic around, and ask "What justification did Cherie Kidd have to suddenly, without warning, and with City business still to be done, end the regularly scheduled City Council meeting?" <br /><br /> Society expects it's government and laws to be predictable, clear and functional. If a council member or judge can do anything they feel like doing, at any time, we would have mayhem. <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-32874286217487883892016-03-12T08:23:02.401-08:002016-03-12T08:23:02.401-08:00Except that MRSC page actually says: "Althoug...Except that MRSC page actually says: "Although following parliamentary procedure is not required..." That means we don't gotta. It may lead to issues ... but we don't gotta. It's really hard to make a complaint stick, when it assumes rules council has never adopted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-73131875266296273892016-03-12T08:16:41.249-08:002016-03-12T08:16:41.249-08:00Sunny Farms for the win!Sunny Farms for the win!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-33624810667533567232016-03-12T00:56:33.509-08:002016-03-12T00:56:33.509-08:00I think there is no "thinking" between t...I think there is no "thinking" between the clutch and the babbling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-18476356607998527032016-03-12T00:54:45.674-08:002016-03-12T00:54:45.674-08:00Some places have Kangaroo Courts, we have a Kangar...Some places have Kangaroo Courts, we have a Kangaroo Council and advisory staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-58691802527624316402016-03-12T00:53:43.432-08:002016-03-12T00:53:43.432-08:00Except MSRC (the group that trains our municipal g...Except MSRC (the group that trains our municipal governments in WA state) says we gotta use SOME parliamentary form, and we gotta follow the basics...which includes an adjournment to be first/second, asked if any pending business, etc., and NO one can do this when someone else has the floor. <br />http://mrsc.org/Home/Explore-Topics/Governance/Legislative-Organization,-Meetings-and-Process/Parliamentary-Procedure.aspxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-8007087975888843902016-03-12T00:49:32.255-08:002016-03-12T00:49:32.255-08:00Her? What's wrong with cranks, anyway?Her? What's wrong with cranks, anyway? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-68636735387377721452016-03-12T00:49:03.331-08:002016-03-12T00:49:03.331-08:00No wonder she's so grumpy in the winter...stee...No wonder she's so grumpy in the winter...steel panties. I shudder to think. Sort of like a brass-assed monkey sitting on an iceberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-36418657719772875602016-03-11T22:51:58.560-08:002016-03-11T22:51:58.560-08:00With doses of Arsenic, Lead and Fluoride in each l...With doses of Arsenic, Lead and Fluoride in each location.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-73046734705308051642016-03-11T22:04:00.833-08:002016-03-11T22:04:00.833-08:00 Yes. The more people that show up at every even... Yes. The more people that show up at every event, the faster we get rid of these poor excuses for leadership.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-72583881712295314282016-03-11T22:02:26.877-08:002016-03-11T22:02:26.877-08:00@Anon 7:54 Yes, that may be what it says on paper... @Anon 7:54 Yes, that may be what it says on paper, but functionally, the Council operates exclusively by Roberts, and has for decades.<br /><br /> This sounds a lot like a property owner who has been allowing people to use a trail through their property for years, and suddenly tries to fence them out. When the people complain, the property owner waves their title, saying there is no trail marked on it. Yes, but because the property owner has allowed the public to use the trail for years without obstruction, the courts rule in favor of the public.<br /><br /> Of course, that isn't this city. They will tell you you anything that suits their goals.<br /><br /> Want to make a list of those instances? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-10077826137846322792016-03-11T21:26:02.037-08:002016-03-11T21:26:02.037-08:00Ah ha! A gotcha moment...Almost. I used that phras...Ah ha! A gotcha moment...Almost. I used that phrase because it's one that Cherie Kidd herself has used many, many, many times in the past when talking about taking on her big, grown-up duties as a Council member. It never fails to make one shudder with revulsion. <br /><br />But I will note the possibility of giving offense in the future. Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-18946235183463850732016-03-11T20:20:41.970-08:002016-03-11T20:20:41.970-08:00Everyone bring your lovely yellow and black signs ...Everyone bring your lovely yellow and black signs to the home show tomorrow and Sunday at the high school. Be ready to tell people why these four miscreants must step down now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-81772329900904459062016-03-11T19:54:10.108-08:002016-03-11T19:54:10.108-08:00Council uses their own set of procedural rules.
#...Council uses their own set of procedural rules.<br /><br />#7 says procedural decisions are to be made by the Chair, who "may refer" to Robert's Rules. That's all it says, and that's the only reference to Robert's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-34914386178920272482016-03-11T19:19:29.192-08:002016-03-11T19:19:29.192-08:00Ummm, "Steel-pantied" is a bit sexist......Ummm, "Steel-pantied" is a bit sexist...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-63233948132227805272016-03-11T19:16:18.051-08:002016-03-11T19:16:18.051-08:00he reality is simple. Yes, the City Council has op...he reality is simple. Yes, the City Council has operated EXCLUSIVELY with Roberts Rules of Order for decades. Any set of minutes verifies this.<br /><br /> What Bloor is saying is: "We do what ever we want. We'll use Roberts Rules as convenient, and not if it suits our needs. It only becomes a problem when someone complains."<br /><br /> Reminds me of "Constructive use". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-90939312995875819972016-03-11T18:49:35.859-08:002016-03-11T18:49:35.859-08:00More good news for Port Angeles!
Despite the arti...More good news for Port Angeles!<br /><br />Despite the article in today's PDN proclaiming that Albertsons will buy back the Haggen store I've just heard directly from an employee, who had confirmation from a manager, that the store will instead be closing in 60-90 days.<br /><br />So your choices for groceries in PA are going to be Safeway, Safeway East, Country Aire and Walmart. And 65 people lose their jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-37427816418788035402016-03-11T18:14:58.258-08:002016-03-11T18:14:58.258-08:00Seems this town needs a Wall of Shame. A tall one....Seems this town needs a Wall of Shame. A tall one.<br /><br />At the Octopus would be nice, so all might see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-24535159233804366582016-03-11T16:57:51.906-08:002016-03-11T16:57:51.906-08:00Let's keep the personal insults non-sexist, ok...Let's keep the personal insults non-sexist, okay?Crypt Kickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560627730845451894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-76303565816212551462016-03-11T16:45:03.953-08:002016-03-11T16:45:03.953-08:00Zac Garripoli is a crank and no one should take he...Zac Garripoli is a crank and no one should take her seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3071606563611538039.post-87182887272666725942016-03-11T16:35:12.988-08:002016-03-11T16:35:12.988-08:00Her wardrobe isn't all that expensive, but thi...Her wardrobe isn't all that expensive, but think of the MAKEUP bills!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com